To: Paul Traina <pst@_ERASE_freebsd.org>
cc: Bill Fenner <fenner@_ERASE_parc.xerox.com>, vjs@_ERASE_mica.denver.sgi.com
Subject: Re: 1836 
From: Julian H. Stacey <jhs@
In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:43:53 MST."
             <199610181743.KAA10909@_ERASE_freefall.freebsd.org> 

Hi Paul
CC Bill, vjs@_ERASE_mica.denver.sgi.com

If vjs would be amenable to changing `punt' in `routed' to Bill's `ignore'
or something similar, that would make it more internationaly understandable
IMO :-)

I hadn't realised routed was maintained externaly to FreeBSD,
& by who (vjs), else I'd have sent the suggestion direct to author,
Thanks for catching this Paul :-)

I don't know if the Hacker's dictionary is an American or British publication ?
(I don't have one) or Australian, or from one of the other many English
speaking countries ?  
All I know is I (English) & the Penguin English Dictionary ('85) didn't
recognise `punt'.
The Hacker's dictionary is something most German computer people of my 
acquaintance don't have, they just have English/German dictionaries etc)

I'm not clear from your 2 replies Paul, whether youve already forwarded
this suggestion to vjs@_ERASE_mica.denver.sgi.com or not ?
So I've cc'd him,

Reference:
> From: Paul Traina <pst> 
> Subject: Re: 1836 
> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:43:53 -0700 (PDT) 
> Message-id: <199610181743.KAA10909@_ERASE_freefall.freebsd.org> 
>
> In any case, this is externally maintained software, so this patch should NOT
> be applied because it does not fix any real problems in the code.  Julian,
> perhaps you should submit it to vjs@_ERASE_mica.denver.sgi.com.  However, I will
> warn you in advance that "PUNT" is an international word and is legitimately
> used in this case:
> 
> >From the Hacker's dictionary:
> 
> PUNT [from the punch line of an old joke: "Drop back 15 yards and punt"] 
> v. To give up, typically without any intention of retrying.
> 

& Ref.
> From: Paul Traina <pst>
> To: jhs@, pst, freebsd-bugs
> Subject: Re: bin/1836
> 
> Synopsis: Punt is american only, use abort.
> 
> State-Changed-From-To: open-closed
> State-Changed-By: pst
> State-Changed-When: Fri Oct 18 10:46:12 PDT 1996
> State-Changed-Why: 
> Change request submitted to author.  If he wants to do it, great, if he
> doesn't, we shouldn't be making these kinds of changes to 3rd party code.

& Ref.
> To: jhs@
> Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@_ERASE_freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: bin/1836: /usr/src/*/routed/table.c: s/punt/abort/g
> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:09:13 PDT
> From: Bill Fenner <fenner@_ERASE_parc.xerox.com>
> 
> I think "ignore" is what is really meant in all of these places.
> 
>   Bill

& ref. My original

> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 07:20:10 -0700 (PDT)
> To: jhs@
> From: FreeBSD-gnats@_ERASE_freefall.FreeBSD.org
> Subject: Re: bin/1836: /usr/src/*/routed/table.c:	s/punt/abort/g
> 
> Thank you very much for your problem report.
> It has the internal identification `bin/1836'.
> The individual assigned to look at your
> bug is: freebsd-bugs. 
> 
> >Category:       bin
> >Responsible:    freebsd-bugs
> >Synopsis:       Punt is american only, use abort.
> >Arrival-Date:   Fri Oct 18 07:20:09 PDT 1996
> 
> -------
>> Sent 961016
>> 
>> To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@_ERASE_freebsd.org
>> cc: jhs@
>> Subject: /usr/src/*/routed/table.c:	s/punt/abort/g
>> From: jhs@
>> Reply-To: jhs@
>> X-send-pr-version: 3.2
>> 
>> 
>> >Submitter-Id:   current-users
>> >Originator:     Julian Stacey jhs@
>> >Organization:   Julian Stacey jhs@
>> >Confidential:   no
>> >Synopsis:       Punt is american only, use abort.
>> >Severity:       non-critical
>> >Priority:       low
>> >Category:       bin
>> >Release:        FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386
>> >Class:          change-request
>> >Environment: 	Current
>> 
>> >Description: 
>> 
>> 	Routed American not understandable in English.
>> 
>> 	/usr/src/*/routed/table.c
>> 	creates console messages like this:
>> 	  Oct 16 13:10:46 vector routed[63]: punt RTM_LOSING without gateway
>> 	
>> 	That's not English (I am :-)
>> 	`punt'
>> 	        in the Penguin English Dictionary ('85-86) refers to a verb & noun: 
>> 	        to punt (propel) a punt (flat bottom boat) on a river (or fen).
>> 	`punt'
>> 	        in American (according to Jordan, years ago, so forgive any inaccuracy):
>> 	                to abandon or give up on something, or decline an invitation
>> 	
>> 	The message is obscure,
>> 	a more globaly understandable word would be better, patch follows
>> 	(feel free to choose a better American to global English translation
>> 	than mine, I don't know what `punt' is except by hearsay,
>> 	but `abort' is nearly as short :-)
>> 
>> 
>> >How-To-Repeat: 
>> 
>> 	Run current, drop modem slip link
>> 
>> >Fix: 
>> 	
>> 
>> =========


Next bit still needs to be done to align with commited changes 
now commented out further below.

*** old/src/sbin/routed/table.c	Wed Oct 16 16:10:35 1996
--- new/src/sbin/routed/table.c	Wed Oct 16 16:11:37 1996
***************
*** 281,287 ****
  
  	NTOHL(dst);
  
! 	/* Punt non-contiguous subnet masks.
  	 *
  	 * (X & -X) contains a single bit if and only if X is a power of 2.
  	 * (X + (X & -X)) == 0 if and only if X is a power of 2.
--- 281,287 ----
  
  	NTOHL(dst);
  
! 	/* Ignore non-contiguous subnet masks.
  	 *
  	 * (X & -X) contains a single bit if and only if X is a power of 2.
  	 * (X + (X & -X)) == 0 if and only if X is a power of 2.
#NOW Done	***************
#NOW Done	*** 831,844 ****
#NOW Done	  	} else if (INFO_MASK(info) != 0) {
#NOW Done	  		mask = ntohl(S_ADDR(INFO_MASK(info)));
#NOW Done	  	} else {
#NOW Done	! 		msglog("punt %s without mask",
#NOW Done	  		       rtm_type_name(rtm->rtm_type));
#NOW Done	  		return;
#NOW Done	  	}
#NOW Done	  
#NOW Done	  	if (INFO_GATE(info) == 0
#NOW Done	  	    || INFO_GATE(info)->sa_family != AF_INET) {
#NOW Done	! 		msglog("punt %s without gateway",
#NOW Done	  		       rtm_type_name(rtm->rtm_type));
#NOW Done	  		return;
#NOW Done	  	}
#NOW Done	--- 831,844 ----
#NOW Done	  	} else if (INFO_MASK(info) != 0) {
#NOW Done	  		mask = ntohl(S_ADDR(INFO_MASK(info)));
#NOW Done	  	} else {
#NOW Done	! 		msglog("abort %s without mask",
#NOW Done	  		       rtm_type_name(rtm->rtm_type));
#NOW Done	  		return;
#NOW Done	  	}
#NOW Done	  
#NOW Done	  	if (INFO_GATE(info) == 0
#NOW Done	  	    || INFO_GATE(info)->sa_family != AF_INET) {
#NOW Done	! 		msglog("abort %s without gateway",
#NOW Done	  		       rtm_type_name(rtm->rtm_type));
#NOW Done	  		return;
#NOW Done	  	}
#NOW Done	***************
#NOW Done	*** 916,922 ****
#NOW Done	  {
#NOW Done	  	if (INFO_GATE(info) == 0
#NOW Done	  	    || INFO_GATE(info)->sa_family != AF_INET) {
#NOW Done	! 		msglog("punt %s without gateway",
#NOW Done	  		       rtm_type_name(rtm->rtm_type));
#NOW Done	  		return;
#NOW Done	  	}
#NOW Done	--- 916,922 ----
#NOW Done	  {
#NOW Done	  	if (INFO_GATE(info) == 0
#NOW Done	  	    || INFO_GATE(info)->sa_family != AF_INET) {
#NOW Done	! 		msglog("abort %s without gateway",
#NOW Done	  		       rtm_type_name(rtm->rtm_type));
#NOW Done	  		return;
#NOW Done	  	}
#NOW Done	>> =========

Julian
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Julian H. Stacey	jhs@